Thursday, October 21, 2010
Two Poets on Politics in Oakland
Below is Ishmael Reed's analysis of Oakland's mayoral race. Ishmael has a brand of optimism that I lack, especially in the political arena. His choice for Oakland's next mayor is a former student of his at UC Berkeley, now a professor at San Francisco State University, Joe Tuman. Ishmael is not alone in his choice of Professor Tuman. My political advisers who visit Academy of da Corner have been backing Joe from the beginning of the race. I've listened carefully to their strategy since they correctly informed me that Ron Dellums would be Oakland's third black mayor. Personally, I have no faith in any elected politicians, white, black, latino, gay or straight. I'm more in favor of a people's democracy. Even if Joe is able to beat out the front runner Don Perata, will he be able to do any more than the previous three black mayors and the pitiful Jerry Brown who served as mayor as a stepping stone back to the governor's mansion? Some would say that even if they did nothing, which they did, it was a blessing to have the previous black mayors, Lionel Wilson, Elihu Harris and Dellums. But Obama has put the nail in the coffin that a black politician is any better, or worse, than a white. He has revealed himself to be a black man with a white heart, as they describe reactionary negroes in the Caribbean. Or we can look at the plethora of presidents (for life) and prime ministers in Africa, another genre of black men with white hearts, whose jails, prisons, dungeons and cemeteries are full of opposition leaders, even their wives (Nigeria), journalists, poets and writers. It doesn't matter what color the next mayor is, nor gender, for sure there will be no radical change.
We need a radical restructuring of the political order, but it will not happen until there is political consciousness among the masses, to the extent they will do as the people are doing in France at this hour, take matters to the street to express their displeasure with politicians who supposedly serve at the consent of the governed. At this hour what America needs is a good general strike for jobs, end of housing foreclosures, amnesty for petty criminals in jails and prisons (2 million or more, 90% under the influence of drugs at the time of arrest, along with mental health issues), a total revamping of the racist educational system, a discarding of white supremacy patriarchal mythology that allows homophobia, partner violence, emotional and verbal violence, plus conspicuous consumption to perpetuate the capitalist world of make believe.If women are 85% of the shoppers at stores and malls, if they boycotted the stores and malls for one week, the troops would come home from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere. But we keep hoping and praying a Democrat and/or Republican will save us, even after we see their tricknology election after election, no matter what race or gender.
In Oakland at the rally on the night of the verdict in the police killing of Oscar Grant, we saw an example of people's democracy when the rally initially took place in the middle of 14th and Broadway because our Maryor Ron Dellums refused to allow the people, who are his boss, to assemble in front of city hall that they own. There shall be a rally for Oscar Grant this Saturday in front of city hall, but we understand no politicians will be allowed to speak, especially since none of them have forcefully addressed the police killing of Oscar Grant. To the contrary, those in the race for the next mayor are trying their best to accommodate and placate the police department that is nothing more than an occupying army in league with drug dealers. Imagine peace officers absorb the majority of the city budget, 300 million of 400 million. They earn $180,000 with salary and benefits, yet the murder, terror and trauma continues in the hood. Ask anyone if they feel safer in the hood, no matter the alleged crime decrease. That's like Obama telling us the job and housing crisis is actually getting better, after all, Wall Street and the banks are back to business as usual, so hold tight, prosperity is just around the corner, vote for me, I'll set you free, change is gonna come!
--Marvin X (Plato Negro)
Academy of da Corner,
14th and Broadway,
Downtown Oakland
jmarvinx@yahoo.com
www.blackbirdpressnews.blogspot.com
His latest books include Pull Yo Pants Up fada Black Prez and Yoself, essays on Obama Drama,2010; I AM OSCAR GRANT, essays on Oakland, 2010, The Wisdom of Plato Negro (Vol. I and II), 2010, Mythology of Pussy and Dick, toward Healthy Psychosocial Sexuality, Black Bird Press, 2010. Order from Black Bird Press, 1222 Dwight Way, Berkeley CA 94702.
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A New Generation and a New Direction
Professor Joe: Oakland's Next Mayor?
“Oakland’s mayor revamped the police department, but hasn't received credit for the substantial decrease in crime.“Oakland’s crime problem spiraled out of control in the last two years of Jerry Brown's administration. And then it remained high in 2007 and 2008 during Ron Dellums' first two years as mayor of Oakland. Brown, however, managed to escape criticism for failing to slow the crime wave, while Dellums was excoriated for it — despite the fact that his crime numbers were never as bad as Brown's. And now, Oakland’s crime wave appears to be over, yet Dellums isn’t getting credit for that either, even though there's an argument to be made that the decisions made on his watch are partially responsible.”
“Taking office in 1990, just as a Wall Street and real estate collapse pitched the city into deep recession, Mayor Dinkins, the city’s first African-American mayor, stumbled more than once. But he also registered more successes than most New Yorkers realize, and so he laid part of the foundation for today’s New York.“‘Dinkins faced a very sharp economic downturn, and he was in the very difficult position of coming in with high expectations from many constituencies,’ said John H. Mollenkopf, a political science professor at the City University Graduate Center. ‘Yet he expanded the police force and rebuilt neighborhoods; he deserves more credit than he gets for managing that time.”’
“First, with respect to containing/controlling costs for policing: Long term, I believe we need to rethink the assumption that a police officer in Oakland must (on average) cost about $180,000/year with salary and benefits. The city council and even former Senator Perata believe this to be so. The Council limits their approaches to staffing our police department in only two ways: either they want to raise taxes to pay more officers this $180k average, or lay off officers and pay less of them that same amount.“Even Senator Perata buys into this mentality, saying he would simply find the same amount of money ($180k average) by laying off other city employees to hire back laid off police officers. I think about this differently; I question that amount. Why does it have to be $180k? Why couldn't it be $140K or $145K? Since the police contract is closed for a few more years, and I do not want to go to interest arbitration over this issue, my solution to this would be to begin offering voluntary early retirement incentives to eligible officers (10-15% of the force are within 2-3 years of retirement), and using savings from these retirements to begin hiring a new second tier of police recruits who would come in at a lower salary base. Essentially, gradually manage out my most expensive officers who are going to retire anyway--and slowly replace them with officers at a more affordable salary for the city. With an unemployment rate hovering at 20% for the city, I'm confident we could find many applicants for these jobs, even at reduced salary. More officers, in turn, reduces the need for overtime, and means that both overtime and pension costs will be less, since these are calculated by base salary. This has worked in other bureaucracies; it can work here, too.”
“As far as the most recent episode of questionable overtime payments goes, let me react in this way:“I am encouraged by the fact that our officers want to participate in a charity event; this speaks volumes to their willingness to be good civic partners here as well as in other places. I do not feel, however, that in this economic environment it is appropriate to charge overtime costs for this cause… There is a lesson here: everyone in city government (not just the police officers) should be more careful and honest stewards of public funds--and under my administration, they will be just that.”
“A former New York City police officer caught in the sweeping scandal at the 30th Precinct in Harlem was sentenced yesterday to five years in prison for dealing drugs, evading taxes and breaking into property without a search warrant.” The New York Times 9/10/96.
“Officer Schoolcraft is on suspension without pay on charges that he left a work shift on Halloween in 2009 without permission, and then failed to return, said his lawyer, Jon Norinsberg. He has filed a $50 million lawsuit claiming department officials retaliated against him, including taking him to a hospital in handcuffs that night for psychiatric evaluation, after he reported his suspicions. He has also secretly recorded roll calls that have resulted in allegations that commanders at the 81st Precinct pushed ticket and arrest quotas on officers. The police have denied the existence of quotas.” Times, Oct.15
Monday, October 18, 2010
Last Call for Submissions, Poetry Issue, Journal of Pan African Studies
Last Call for Submissions:
Poetry Issue, Journal of Pan African Studies
Deadline November 15
Send to:
Marvin X, Guest Editor
jmarvinx@yahoo.com,
include brief bio and pic,
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Tentative Contents
Poetry Issue
Journal of Pan African Studies
Marvin X, Guest Editor
Itibari M. Zulu, Senior Editor
Special thanks:
Louis Reyes Rivera
Eugene Redmond
Bruce George
Gwendolyn Mitchell
Askia Toure
Rudolph Lewis
Amiri Baraka
Dedication to Jose Gancalves, Publisher/Editor, Journal of Black Poetry
List of contributors to JBP
Photo Essay of JBP Poets
Notes on the Poetry issue of Journal of Pan African Studies
A History of the JBP and publications during the 60s, compiled by Rudolph Lewis
A Forum in Response to Marvin X’s Poetic Mission, Rudolph Lewis
Mary Weems
Jerry Ward
Leigh McInnis
The Poetic Mission, Haki Madhubuti
The Poets
Amiri Baraka, Newark NJ
Kalamu ya Salaam, New Orleans
Kola Boof, Southern California
Louis Reyes Rivera, Brooklyn NY
Ayodele Nzingha, Oakland CA
Askia Toure, Boston MA
Marvin X, Berkeley CA
Neal Hall, MD, Philadelphia PA
Hettie V. Williams
Phavia Khujichagulia, Oakland CA
J. Vern Cromartie, Richmond CA
Jeannette Drake, Virginia
Dike Okoro, Chicago IL
Tracey Owens Patton, Wyoming
devorah major, San Francisco
Anthony Mays, Korea
Bruce George, New York City
Itibari M. Zulu, Palmdale CA
Renaldo Ricketts, San Francisco
Nandi Comer
Al Young, Berkeley CA
Ghasem Batamuntu, Europe
Mona Lisa Saloy, New Orleans
Susan Lively, East St. Louis IL
Eugene Redmond, East St. Louis IL
Fritz Pointer, Oakland CA
Gwendolyn Mitchell, Chicago IL
Felix Orisewike Sylvanus, Lagos, Nigeria
Tariq Shabazz, Newark NJ
Rudolph Lewis, Maryland
Kamaria Muntu, United Kingdom
L. E. Scott, Aotearoa, New Zealand
Chinwe Enemchukwu, Florida USA
Mabel Mnensa, South Africa
Kwan Booth, Oakland CA
Rodney D. Coates, East St. Louis IL
Ras Griot, Washington DC
Tureeda Mikell, Oakland CA
Ramal Lamar, Oakland CA
Everett Hoagland, New Bedford MA
Charles Curtis Blackwell, Oakland CA
JACQUELINE KIBACHA, Tanzania, East Africa
John Reynolds III, Washington DC
Gabriel Shapiro
Darlene Scott, Delaware MD
Jimmy Smith, Jr., Chicago IL
Sam Hamod, Princeton NJ
Opal Palmer Adisa, Oakland CA
Amy ”Aimstar” Andrieux, New York City
Lamont b. Steptoe, Philadelphia PA
Avotcja Jiltonilro, San Francisco CA
Tantra Zawadi, New York City
Anthony Spires, San Francisco
Benicia Blue, Chicago IL
Neil Callender, Boston MA
Tanure Ojaide, Nigeria
Pious Okoro, Chicago IL
Nicole Terez Dutton, Boston MA
Iris Tate
Kilola Maishya
Niyah X, Oakland CA
Adrienne N. Wartts, St. Louis MO
Tony Medina, Washington DC
Reviews, Views, News
Reviews
Kamaria Muntu, review of Askia Toure’s Mother Earth Responds: green poems & alternative visions
Views
Two poets on politics in Oakland: Ishmael Reed, Marvin X
Afro-Arab Dialogue on Col. Qaddafi’s Apology for Arab Slavery:
Kola Boof, Sam Hamod, Rudolph Lewis, Marvin X
A Pan African Dialogue on Cuba:
Dead Prez, Carlos Moore, North American African Intellectuals/activists, Pedro de la Hoz
Muslim American Literature as an emerging field,
Dr. Mohja Kahf
News
Chinua Achebe Wins Prize
Bay Area Writers Celebrate Baraka’s 75th
Photo Essay by Kamau Amem Ra
News from East Boogie, Eugene Redmond
Letters to the Editor
Sunday, October 17, 2010
Preview #17, Journal of Pan African Studies, Poetry Issue
DR Congo: Africa's sleeping giant? - Africa... States of Independence - Al Jazeera English
Patrice Lumumba
A Film by Raoul Peck
Reviewed By Marvin X
© 2002 by Marvin X
Note: We send out this review on the 50th anniversary of independence in the Congo. Lumumba said he was fifty years ahead of his time, and so it is. But even fifty years later the same problems of poverty, ignorance and disease remain, the Europeans are still there stealing the wealth, although the Chinese have entered the drama. Hopefully, with the Chinese, in exchange for precious minerals, there shall be construction and reconstruction, although we don't understand with a population of seventy million mostly unemployed why Chinese laborers are needed. There seems little jubilation among the population. One Congolese said, "After fifty years of independence, happiness has come to the man in charge and those around him--they eat well and are well paid."
--mx
My African consciousness began with the murder of Patrice Lumumba. After high
school graduation, I enrolled at Oakland's Merritt College and found myself in the midst of the black revolutionary student movement. Students Huey Newton, Bobby Seale, Richard Thorne, Maurice Dawson, Kenny Freeman, Ernie Allen, Ann Williams, Carol Freeman and others were rapping daily on the steps at the front door of Merritt College. Some of them wore sweatshirts with Jomo Kenyatta's picture, sold by Donald Warden's African American Association, which held meetings on campus, and sometimes Donald Warden, renamed Khalid Abdullah Tariq Al Mansour, rapped. The theme was often the African independence struggle, especially the Mau Mau's in Kenya.
But a frequent topic was the 1961 brutal murder of the democratically elected Congolese Prime Minister, Patrice Lumumba. The brothers were well read and in their raps they documented the facts and figures of the African liberation struggle. They gave reference to such books as Kwame Nkrumah's Neo-Colonialism: the final stage of imperialism, where he documented the riches of Africa, especially the Congo, that the West coveted and committed mass murder to maintain. Patrice Lumumba was the first African leader I'd known about who was assassinated, and the brutal way he was eliminated helped expedite my African consciousness, especially learning how his so-called comrades betrayed him to continue the Western world's plunder of the Congo's vast mineral riches.
On one level, it was hard to believe, since I was attempting to get blackenized and didn't want to face the reality of black treachery. As students, most of us were Black nationalists, not yet the revolutionary black nationalists we would soon become, that allowed some of us to employ a class or Marxist analysis to the Pan African struggle, which Nkrumah's writings brought to the table.
The brothers leaning in the Marxist direction were Ken Freeman, Ernie Allen, and maybe Bobby Seale, all of whom were associated with SoulBook magazine, a revolutionary black nationalist publication featuring the writings of LeRoi Jones, James Boggs, Max Stanford, Robert F. Williams, Sonia Sanchez, Askia M. Toure', myself and others, although I was a budding writer, just out of high school and knew nothing about Marxism.
If I had, it would have helped me understand the class nature of Lumumba's final days. I couldn't comprehend how Mobutu, Kasavubu, and Tshombe could be so wicked to conspire with the white man to kill their brother. It would take the black hands of Malcolm's murderers for me to begin to understand.
Actually, I wouldn't fully understand until years later after reading a monograph by Dr. Walter Rodney, himself the victim of assassination in Guyana, South America, entitled West Africa and the Atlantic Slave Trade, in which he carefully deconstructed African social classes and their role in the slave trade, detailing how the political, military, judicial, and even religious institutions became corrupt and expedited our removal from the Motherland.
Amiri Baraka sings to us:
My brother the king
Sold me to the ghost
When you put your hand on your sister and made her a slave
When you put your hand on your brother and made him a slave
Watch out for the ghost
The ghost go get you Africa
At the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean
Is a railroad of human bones
the king sold the farmer to the ghost....
It is hard to believe it has been forty years since the death of Lumumba, maybe because in the interim we've had innumerable cases in Africa and even in America of similar acts of treachery. Supposedly black ministers were involved in the death of Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. Black elected politicians have been selling out the black community for at least the past thirty years, especially since the 1972 Gary Convention of the Congress of African People. We have no choice but to see our struggle as class struggle, race being incidental.
We cannot have any illusions that a black face will save us, only black hearts. Those who study the Bible and Qur'an know the history of all men is the story of treachery, deceit, lust, greed, jealousy, envy and murder -- but the glass can be seen as half full: the history of man is also about good transcending evil, liberation defeating oppression, ascension after crucifixion, joy after sorrow, victory over defeat. Yet, how many prophets survived? How many righteous people survived and continued in their righteousness, rather than succumb to iniquities?
Men of Lumumba's character are rare upon the stage of history, men dedicated to the liberation of their people, men who are confident that no matter how great the odds, freedom will come soon one morning.
Raoul Peck's film was depressing because it showed a leader in a Indiana Jones snake pit full of vipers and cobras of the worse sort, snakes who danced to the rhythm of Western drums, not those of the mighty Congo, for Lumumba's mission appeared doomed from the start, he said himself that he was fifty years ahead of his time. This may have been the truest statement of the movie, for only ten years remain before the half-century mark in the modern history of the Congo or Zaire. Maybe in the last ten years of his prophecy, the people of Zaire will become truly free.
What the movie failed to give us were the deep structure motivations for the behavior of men like Kasavubu, Tshombe and Mobutu. Yes, the Europeans were there, had been there stealing the wealth, especially of Katanga Province which held 70% of the nation's riches, but we needed to see the very beginning with Belgium King Leopold's butchery, including his role in the European carving up of Africa at the 1890s Berlin Conference. We need to know the custom of chopping off limbs so en vogue today with diamond seeking armies in Zaire, Sierra Leone, Liberia, and elsewhere originated with King Leopold. Only then can the unaware and unread understand what demonic forces created such inhuman beings as the three main characters that surrounded Lumumba and ultimately brought about his downfall. From the movie we are tempted to say his own people did him in, but we know better, we must know better-think of diamonds, chrome, uranium, plutonium, cobalt, zinc and other minerals.
Look at Zaire today with several competing armies from neighboring countries (Rwanda, Uganda, Angola, et al) warring over the same minerals for the same European masters who instigated the treacherous actions of Kasavubu, Tshombe and Mobutu. Their names have a poetic ring that we should remember forever as the sound of death in a people, the sound of condensation and the lowest rats in creation, but understand they represent class interests and their class mates are visible throughout Africa and the world, even in the American political landscape: we have Clarence Thomas, Ward Connelly and Colin Powell -- new world rats, but rats none the less, who are every bit the measure of the Congo Three.
And let us not forget the reactionary behavior in the black liberation movement, the murder by incineration of Samuel Napier in the Black Panther fratricide, the assassination of Bunchy Carter and John Huggins by the US organization in the BSU meeting room on the campus of UCLA, the Muslims setting a prostitute on fire in San Francisco and other terrorists actions such as the Zebra killings.
Even the Black Arts Movement had its psychopathic shootouts with the wounding of Larry Neal and other acts we need not list. Shall we neglect to mention the hip hop generation also has its catalogue of madness such as the east coast/west coast killing of rap giants Tupac and Biggie Small. Let Lumumba be a lesson for us all. Let's learn from it and move to higher ground. Some of our madness is simply that -- we cannot attribute all evil acts of man to white oppression, although white oppression in inexcusable. We must take responsibility for Black Madness.
We are happy the director created a screen version of this historic drama. The actors made us feel the good in Lumumba and the evil in his associates, black and white, for the whites performed their usual roles as arrogant, paternalistic colonial masters whose aim was to hold power until the last second as we saw when they released Lumumba from prison to attend independence talks in Belgium. We saw the stark contrast of character in the speeches of Lumumba as prime minister and Kasavubu as president. Lumumba was strong, Kassavubu capitulating even on the eve of freedom, signaling his intent to remain a colonial puppet.
For those who came away like myself, and one could sense the sad silence in the audience as they departed the theatre, a friend remarked that we must not give up hope because the enemy will never tell you when you are winning.
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www.parablesandfablesofmarvinx.blogspot.comSermon for Sunday October 3, 2010: Remember Me
When Mike Wallace asked Sister Thea Bowman how she would like to be remembered, she replied, “I want them to say: She tried.”
How do you want to be remembered?
It is your last testament; the way you are remembered, if you are remembered.
If you are not then the silence will be your testament.
Will you be remembered? How will you be remembered?
Remember Me: Sermon for Sunday October 3, 2010
I want to be remembered.
I want my name said.
Remember I was the daughter of Ernestine,
who was the daughter of Nettie,
who was the daughter of Connie,
whose mother I do not know,
but still remember to remember.
I want to be remembered for remembering.
I want to be remembered as a bridge.
Remember I tried to help us get there.
I want to be remembered for being a shelter.
Remember me for building and sharing.
I want to be remembered for being a loyal friend.
Remember I loved you
even when you were an imperfect vessel.
I want to be remembered for my loving black heart.
Remember how I loved unconditionally
until it was impossible.
I want to be remembered for saying the words whispered in my ear.
Remember me swinging nouns and verbs like swords.
I want to be remembered for my courage.
Remember me standing in the valley of the shadow
with truth in one hand
a desert eagle in the other.
I want to be remembered as being a part of the paradigm shift.
Remember me as a mother of lions.
I want to be remembered as a warrior.
Remember me as a guerilla in your midst.
I want to be remembered as a fierce enemy.
Remember I am Nzinga, born again,
Nat Turner & Harriet, used to be me.
I want to be remembered for acting up.
Remember me setting fires on stages.
I want to be remembered for the words.
Remember me crying over the news.
I want to be remembered like Garvey.
Remember to forgive my sins
look for me in the whirlwind.
I want to be remembered for my love of nation.
Remember us from doors of no return
spread like ocean seed from shore to shore.
I want to be remembered for my determination.
Remember that if I can
I’ll come again
a warrior still
rising again and again
my love won’t sleep.
Remember me.
--Ayodele Nzingha
October 2010
Saturday, October 16, 2010
Preview #16, An Afro-Arab Dialogue on Arab Slavery
Guest Editor, Marvin X
A Dialogue Between Poets Rudolph Lewis, Sam Hamud and Kola Boof
This dialogue follows the apology for Arab Slavery by Col. Qaddafi of Libya, North Africa (see Preview #15). It is good that we can reason together, especially in light of so much ignorance on the planet, along with propaganda and revisionist history. We think our Sudanese sister writer, Kola Boof, makes the most persuasive argument in defense of Black Africa. Elijah tried to warn us about the Arabs, but we want to be so right that we are wrong, as Sun Ra taught me. How much progress have we made when we give up the white man for the Arab?
We oppose oppression everywhere, especially in Africa, the Middle East and most especially in America, whether by the white man or the Arab man in the hood who sexually exploits our women and short changes our children.
Arab slavery in Africa and the Middle East is going on as we write, just as the sex trade is flourishing on the streets on America, so we must not be starry eyed about Muslims or Christians, both peoples have the propensity to do good and evil. Ancestor Betty Shabazz said find the good and praise it!
--Marvin X
Guest Editor, Journal of Pan African Studies, Poetry Issue
Rudy
Qaddafi's apology follows on the heels of that by the United States for its plague visited upon the Guatemalians. By that of the Congress of the United States for its exploitation of the African Americans who built the Capitol at slave wages.
Qaddafi's statement is indeed more remarkable than the latter two apologies. The United States of America has yet to apologize to its kidnapping and enslavement of the sons and daughters of Africa.
Nor has it apologized to Mexico for its theft of much of what we call the Southwest, including California, Arizona, and New Mexico.
Nor has it thanked the Haitian people for its aid in acquiring the Louisiana Territory, which makes up much of what is the Midwest and the Northwest sections of the present-day United States.
For those with an interest, you may like to read Chinweizu's take on Arab slave trade:
http://www.nathanielturner.com/blackenslavementarabeuropean.htm
I challenge Saudi Arabia and Iraq to make similar apologies. Of course apologies without payment is little or no apology at all.
Loving Africa and Africans madly, Rudy
Sam to Rudy
hello rudy,
we are on the same page about qaddafi's apology; he has always been forthright and from meeting him back in the 80s when reagan was lying about "libyan hit squads," to today,he is a true muslim, not one who pretends or stands on ritual.
but as to some of the materials you quoted from bernard lewis, i would not take him as anhonest scholar, because he was an economist and knew little of Islam, and made up a lot of things and exaggerated others;no true scholars of islam or arab history trust his work because of his use as a zionist propagandist against islam and the arabs. i knew bernie lewis before i went to teach at princeton,and often argued with him while here in princeton; true arab and muslim historians, many of them jews, abhored his bad scholarship on arabs and islam,and often slanted and biased writings against islam and the arabs.
do not get me wrong, thereis, and has been, a lot wrong in the ara ban dmuslim worlds, but the prophert muhammad tried to help correct that. but, as with all religions, not all of it takes.
for instance, in one of the earliest of arab classical poems, there is "Antar," that deals with a black member of the tribe who desires the hand of teh chief's daughter, the chief andhis family ar white. the chief says, "no." but later, when antar proves himself in battle, the chief says, "yes, to the marriage" and antar becomes the leader of the tribe in t ime. this showed racial discrimination at that time, but certainly not slavery as we had it in the west.
but let us go on to other matters that i hope will clarifiy matters a bit more. i know this is a touchy subject and some would not dare touch it, but ishmael and marvin both know that i am willing to go where others fear to tread. but this also to let you know that i agree with qaddafi, and an apology is owed,as, it must be in from america and from other arab and muslim countries, and they must also apologize to Allah for their misdeeds,then and today, if necessary.
but also, malik al shabazz, malcom x, was not fool. he saw some things tha the'd never seen, but he saw the real islam, not that which was culture bound in the arab or islamic world where p eo ple do ritual instead of the real practice of the faith.
1. there was, and still is, discrimination in the arab and muslim worlds; but, you must understand, the Qur'an is against it.
2. slaves in the muslim world, were like indentured servants in the west, but bernard lewis, one of my former colleagues at princeton, was a notorious creater of materials, especially against the arabs and islam. he was one of those whose task was to split islam and the african americans in america and the world with his books. he also had dual citizenship with israel and america, so u can see where his sympathies lay.
3. slavery in america was always brutal, with no sense of human relationships or human respect; in the muslim world, from what i have read from other scholars in history, was, as i said, more like indentured servants, and families were not split up as happened in america and europe. slaves were often prisoners taken in warfare. until the europeans came, we hve no record of them being "sold" as chattel, which was, and is inhuman, but after the europeans came, there is no doubt that many went for the money or whatever. this was against qur'anic law, to "sell" another human being. if u have that person as a, as in western term, "slave" you must treat him or her with respect, feed , house, and clothe them and let them do their prayers, etc, and they do the work you assign them. after a certain amount of time, they may leave if they wish; they are not bound for life. this is not to justify this matter, but to make clear that the term "slavery" doesn't have the same meaning in arabic as it does in english, and islamic and arab types of slavery, though not good, were not at all like slavery in europe and the americas.
BUT BERNARD LEWIS AND HIS FRIENDS NEVER EXPLAINED THIS DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THEY HAD THERI OWN AGENDA.
4. qaddafi always comes out with the truth, as he did in other matters in the past. i didn't see this quote, but he has always been forthright on behalf of africans, african americans and native americans (what he termed, "the red indians", so as ot distinguish and make clear that they were not indians at all, for to be an indian, u had to have been from india!)
i'd say more, but i hope this helps clarify some matters. this is not that i disagree with you, but that there are matters here that i felt needed clarification.
unfortunately, bad discrimination exists and has existed for too long in the world; rememeber spike lee's, School Daze--it showed among african amerians discrimination based on light,tan,brown, black and blue blacks at an african american college; i taught at howard univ, and it was evident there while i was teaching there from 1988-95.
we hve to do away with all discrimination of that sort; the qur'an speaks against discrimination, but what alleged "muslims" do may be the opposite, but that is not the fault of Islam,nor good muslims,no matter what their color.
peace, salaam,
Sam to Rudy
rudy,
i'd also like to add something important that i wrote ishmael about, and will send it as an added essay for marvin's blackbird jrnl; the americans and europeans fed the muslim "slaves" pork intestines, who were among the earliest "slaves" brought to E and Am, from Sierra Leone and Mali. yes, the only meat they would give them, or only food they would give them was pork, and the intestines, full of shit, as their food.
this was to help break them from islam, and to insult them and their religion, in order to help break their spirits.
that's why, as i told ishmael, it's ironic that chittlins is a big food among african americans, when it was the food the white men used to break the spirit of those from africa. bernard lewis and others never mention this; but this comes from some of my own research and reasoning, knowing the history of the early people who were brought from africa (as i said, most were muslim).
the next step was the get them to become christians; they would often reward those people with better food, etc. those who did not give up islam were more brutalized by the europeans and americans (that is if can measure degrees of brutality, when all brutality is wrong!)
again, this is not an apologia for arabs or muslims in the middle east, but rather, an atte mpt to clarify matters so that though there were many, too many, w rongs, some of the matters needed to be clarified. i also agree, more than just words should be given. as a muslim, born and raised in america, from lebanese parents, i know there was, and is, still discrimination among arabs and muslims, and among xian arabs toward others,black, tan and white, but if they followed Islam and a proper Christianity, they would not have discrimination based on race, color, ethnicity, religion, or whatever.
peace, salaam,
Kola to Sam
Excuse me,
But this APOLOGY is meaningless considering the fact that
SLAVERY has not ended in Sudan, Mauritania or any of the
Arab nations that import them. Even in Libya, Khadafi's own
country, Black slaves can be found toiling on Arab farms and
homes.
Arab enslavement of Blacks, not mention genocide, is nowhere
near over.
And what the hell is an apology worth?? What does it do really?
Is that what you want for everything your ancestors suffered
500 years in America----Words?
And as an African mother from Sudan...I completely rebuke
this drivel written by SAM at Princeton. The irony of hatred
in the Afro-Arab world is much more diverse & much more
dimensional than what you have boiled it down to.
I relinquished my Muslim faith years ago; I try to speak Arabic
as little as possible. I do not feel in any way...sympathetic to
Khadafi's words (especially since I was once employed by the
man at White Bride, Tripoli) or to yours.
Kola Boof
Sam to Kola
hello kola, i hear what you are saying. the imam at your mosque was obviously a lying fool, who knew nothing about islam; thus, u can't condemn the religion for his abuse of u and others or the lies he spread.
as to the history u speak of, these are matters you know more of, beng on the ground, than i. as to palestinians sterilizing women to keep them as slaves, etc. this is something i know nothing about so cannot say if it is true or propaganda against islam.
as witih all peoples, there are some good ones and bad ones, not just among the arabs, but among all people. but, as with stereotyping of all sorts, it may apply to some, but not to all.
may Allah/God bless you, and help you find peace,
sincerely,
dr.hamod
Kola Boof to Sam Hamud
I'm not condemning the religion Sam Hamond.
I'm saying....why should we give a damn about the
Arab Muslim populations period???
The people being Genocided in Darfur....ARE MUSLIMS.
Many of these victims are MUSLIMS...but their skin is Charcoal
Black. THAT is the issue; not religion.
Your conversation is irrelevant. We should be concerned
about OUR AFRICAN SLAVES...and what OUR ancestors
would want us to do.
Not about the "feelings" of the Arab Muslims or Muslims
in America.
All this whining & "poor baby" Head-Patting that the Muslims
are receiving is a disgrace when we're doing NOTHING AT ALL
to save, defend or highlight the suffering the Black Slaves
and the Genocide targeted tribes in Africa!!
The whole conversation about "Islam" should be totally irrelevant!!
Would we care that the German Nazis were Christians or Catholics?
NO.
What we should care about are Black Africans.
Kola Boof
Rudy to Sam
Sam, I have a sliding scale of concern and concerns. First and foremost are the people of my birth, that is, African Americans. They are my family and I will defend them to the death.
Second, some of my like minded Americans (of all colors). Third, the African Diaspora and black Africans of like minds. And then others slide down my ladder of concern and concerns.
I have a concern for Islam as well in that some of my ancestors who came to America were Muslim and many of my friends are Muslim and have taught me much about Islam so that I have prayed with my palms and my forehead to the ground turned toward the rising sun. My interest is thus attached to its Spirituality rather than its rituals and theological concerns.
I have a keen interest and concern for the sufferings of all people, whether Jew or Palestinian. I have never been a fan and upholder of callousness toward the sufferings of others.
I do appreciate and respect the remarks and views of both Sam Hamod and Kola Boof. I am not an authority on the Quran or an historian of Islam and the Middle East. But they are among my intellectual interests.
As one involved in the struggles of my people since a teenager, I indeed find this new Arab development of noteworthy interest so much so that I have published the news on ChickenBones.
My concerns about Darfur and Sudan are such that I have corresponded with Bankie Bankie and have web pages dedicated to the happenings in South Sudan:
I favor a separation of South Sudan and await anxiously the vote. As far as Gaddafi I trust him as far as I could throw hi. He is too self serving for my comfort.
Loving yall madly, Rudy
East & North Africa have been enslaved by Arab Muslim
Invaders (now Arab Imperialists) for 1,000 years.
Today, 2010, in Sudan...
Today in Sudan...we have slavery & genocide and it is
based on "Skin Complexion"...Colorism....the "Blackest/Purest"
must be wiped out and obliterated to break down Black blood
(authentic Africans) and MASS PRODUCE the Arab Rape Baby
who then in turn embraces more &more Arabization and
mixing until the White Arabs have conquered Sudan the same
way they conquered the rest of North Africa.
This is how they destroyed EGYPT and gradually "whitened"
and "whitened" it.....Queen Cleopatra's Intermarriage Law
(making it ILLEGAL for an Egyptian to marry an Egyptian)
being the 1st salvo in Cesar's quest to conquer the Blood,
not just the land.
When I was a child in Omdurman, Sudan...THE MOSQUE taught
us that the "Blacker you were"..the less loved by Allah you were.
That blackness was Allah's curse & that we should feel nothing
about slaughtering & pillaging the "Charcoal" original people.
In Mauritania, the Arabs "raise/breed" a Slave Class of Africans
from birth. These particular slaves believe they were born to
be nothing more than slaves & love their Arab master fiercely.
There are no PLANTATIONS in Sudan.
Dinka girls sell for $14. They are taken at ages
6, 9, 12 and kept in the homes as "bed slaves" and
maids.
Black Boys are chained to the back of Arab homes
& fed from doggy bowls. When it's time to do labor,
they unleash and work the Boy slave, beating him
if need be.
Even Palestinians have Dinka girl slaves. They sterilize these girls
so they can rape them w/o producing more Black males.
Jordan...Syria...Lebanon...Saudi Arabia...Iraq....Palestine
....Egypt...
In each of these nations you will find TODAY (RIGHT NOW)
Black women working in the kitchens with their tongues cut
out of their heads---you will find Black Sex Slaves, MALE &
female; you will find Blind African Men in the streets living
on 3 cents a week for "slave" work.
I am not surprised that MANY Colorstruck Black Americans don't
immediately notice this "trick" or that they identify with their
"Brown Brothers" (light skin, slick hair, brownish)....totally
preferring to look like these Bastardized Arabs and disassociate
with the Authentic Cushitic Peoples; the real true Black Africans.
I am not surprised that Black Americans "Make Excuses" for why
we should identify with KHADAFI and sell out the never ending
suffering of our own ancestors---whether they be West African
Slave Trade or the East/North African Slave Trade.
THE WHITE DEVIL in America....don't have shit on the Arab
Islamic MONSTER still pillaging & destroying true African culture.
Swahili is not an indigenous "African" language...but an Arab
Slave language combining African Bantu with dominant Arab
language and then FORCED on Eastern Africa nearly 1,000 years
ago through INVASION.
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THESE are Facts & History of the Afro-Arab world
...and these abuses & horrors are CURRENT.
This is what needs to be discussed if it's truly KNOWLEDGE
you're claiming to seek.
Kola Boof
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